Does anyone have any plans for the coming Ice Age?
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I used to have this mindset as well, "just get away on my own", learned to garden and have come to realize it is wishful thinking. Those who survived, from the little information I am aware of so far, and even thrived in past ice ages were folks who lived together in communities of whatever size with different practical skills to contribute to the group as a whole as well as sharing knowledge and experience at many different levels.
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I guess the answer to that would have to do with how different climate is going to be. They talk about the 'Grand Solar Minimum', but is this a temporary thing, or are we moving back into permanent ice age? And how much ice is it going to produce?
It would be virtually impossible to live on permafrost or on a glacier with no ability to grow crops whatsoever. People are less likely to have this problem the closer they are to the equator.
It seems to me that perhaps the longer people wait to make plans, the more difficult it will be to move if that's what they want to do. It would have been a lot easier 20 years ago, but hindsight is 20/20...
It's very hard to gauge the speed of the onset of the GSM, and combined with panic buying which is inevitable, I would say that preparing incrementally is wise. If you can afford it, buy double of what you would normally buy on a weekly basis. The way I see it is this...everything you use in your home during the week, you will need 3 months worth tucked away somewhere dry, cool and dark. This may help with the initial transition, giving you time to find genuinely like-minded folk to work with, if you haven't found them yet.
我听说加拿大的法规关于吸引d burning stoves are quite rigid, but a heat/cooking source free from the grid or pipes is essential. Indoor growing is touted my many preppers, but I don't see this as particularly viable for most unless you have a way of creating and harnessing your own energy. Some form of personal protection might be in order as well as knowing your immediate dangers...situational awareness? But long term? Joining the masses on a caravan migration to the Equator seems fraught with problems...how to feed and protect yourself en route and where do you settle when you get there?
As others have posted, community is key. Sharing of knowledge and skills, safety in numbers and many hands make light work!
Most importantly, mental preparation...
我听说加拿大的法规关于吸引d burning stoves are quite rigid, but a heat/cooking source free from the grid or pipes is essential. Indoor growing is touted my many preppers, but I don't see this as particularly viable for most unless you have a way of creating and harnessing your own energy. Some form of personal protection might be in order as well as knowing your immediate dangers...situational awareness? But long term? Joining the masses on a caravan migration to the Equator seems fraught with problems...how to feed and protect yourself en route and where do you settle when you get there?
As others have posted, community is key. Sharing of knowledge and skills, safety in numbers and many hands make light work!
Most importantly, mental preparation...
Don't forget about"The benefits of cold adaptation"
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Yes c.a...cold adaption! Reading through the Carnivore Diet conversation, it seems a shift to meat and fats only could be a good preparation for building a tolerance to the cold, especially if one is not genetically disposed this way.
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I feel like I've arrived at the party too late!
Never to late. Better now then never!
Lots of great threads to kick start the processes. Nice in slow, see how she goes, under a new steam.
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as c.a. says in this post, fromHealth and Wellness Show - Mar. 18, 2016 - The benefits of cold adaptation
It seems that genes play an important role
But I think that adaptation can do a lot, for example, I use Wim Hof techniques for about a year and the results are that i have better "self-confidence" in relation with cold. I am of those who have always complained
on the cold, shaking, I did not think about the possibility of showering with cold water...millennium snowflake.
I did not become superhuman, but with WH technique I managed to become a decent man which does not dramatize around the cold.
Can Wim Hof's breathing methods give us superhuman abilities? -- Sott.net
Research On 'Iceman' Wim Hof Suggests It May Be Possible to Consciously Influence Autonomic Nervous System and Immune Response -- Sott.net
Wim Hof, the Iceman, regulates his vagus nerve to withstand extreme cold -- Sott.net
Cold: Can it make you stronger? -- Sott.net
To stay motivated every day, helps me a lot tracking FB groupWim Hof Methodin which members share their photos, courage, perseverance, adaptation and victory over themselves.
It seems that genes play an important role
Feeling Chilly? It’s in Your Genes.
Posted January 06, 2017
http://cr4.globalspec.com/blogentry/27938?frmtrk=cr4digest&cid=nl&et_rid=763213224&et_mid=83367416
This holiday season I received no less than five sweaters, one space heater, a fleece lined sweatshirt, and one
wonderful electric blanket. Why? It’s very well known that I’m constantly freezing. My teeth have even been known to chatter at the balmy 60 F, the same threshold at which my mother allowed my brothers to wear shorts while we waited for the school bus as kids.
A study published recently revealed something I’m clearly missing: a cold-tolerant gene. This gene variant, possessed by the Inuit, Native Americans, and some Siberians, is thought to cause “a certain type of body fat known as ‘brown fat’ to generate heat,” in addition to being involved in other traits like body fat distribution, bone, and facial structure.
This gene variant is very similar to a gene sequence found in the Denisovans (“extinct humans who once ranged from Siberia to the Southeast”). An earlier discovery had proposed that the Tibetans had also inherited a variant from the Denisovans, which allowed them “to use oxygen efficiently when the air is thin at high altitudes.”
Prior to this study, it had been recognized that one of the clusters of genes involved in cold tolerance was “significantly associated with different phenotypes including fatty acid profiles, weight, and height.” That had been notable, when considering cold-tolerance, because “short, stocky stature was an evolutionary adaption for cold weather since it consolidated heat.” Unfortunately, I don’t seem to be consolidating heat that way.
Another factor working against me is that women seem to feel cold more often than men (this comic by Blue Chair notwithstanding). Many people have observed anecdotal evidence for this, but researchers also found that women tended to possess higher core temperatures, but have consistently colder hands and feet—possibly leaving them feeling colder.
All in all, it looks as though I’m going to continue shivering, but at least now I have some answers
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http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2016/12/20/molbev.msw283
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Here's Why the Inuit Tolerate Cold Better Than You Do
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Neanderthals: Facts About Our Extinct Human Relatives
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Bluechair - Ep. 32 - Low Tolerance
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http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)78875-9/fulltext
Interview with Dr. Aajonus Vonderplanitz on The Primal Diet - Raw Meat and Fat
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But I think that adaptation can do a lot, for example, I use Wim Hof techniques for about a year and the results are that i have better "self-confidence" in relation with cold. I am of those who have always complained
on the cold, shaking, I did not think about the possibility of showering with cold water...millennium snowflake.
I did not become superhuman, but with WH technique I managed to become a decent man which does not dramatize around the cold.
Can Wim Hof's breathing methods give us superhuman abilities? -- Sott.net
Research On 'Iceman' Wim Hof Suggests It May Be Possible to Consciously Influence Autonomic Nervous System and Immune Response -- Sott.net
Wim Hof, the Iceman, regulates his vagus nerve to withstand extreme cold -- Sott.net
Cold: Can it make you stronger? -- Sott.net
To stay motivated every day, helps me a lot tracking FB groupWim Hof Methodin which members share their photos, courage, perseverance, adaptation and victory over themselves.
Even though it is called the little ice age, something like this (even just if it is remotely as severe as back than) happening in our world today will most certainly have a very profound effect on everything. In fact, I think that a little ice age like this happening today most likely will be enough to stop the world/civilization as we know it. And that is just if we talk about a small version of that little ice age! If we are faced with a real one, like the last big one that ended approx 12.000 years ago, where the temperatures were much colder than in the little ice age, it looks much, much worse.
Agreed. We have all of this amazing technical prowess and advanced technology, but our infrastructure for supporting that technology and our way of life based on the use of that technology isn't very resilient or anti-fragile. Thinking about how complex the system supporting our lives is, I'm amazed it even works at all. But you introduce sudden glacial rebound, shortened or non-existent growing seasons, etc. and I don't think life as we know it would last very long.
I remember living in GA a few years ago and we got a whopping 3 inches or so of snow and ice and everything shut down for the better part of a week. It was, for us anyways, snowpocalypse. Imagining that scenario lasting for weeks, months, or longer... It's not a pretty picture.
Laura, thank you for the recommendation “A Cold Welcome”. Just ordered it and looking forward to reading it this weekend. Even though I live in Southeast Florida, one can never know what will happen through an Ice Age. I do have canned pastured meats put away along with plenty of beans, rice, etc. I usually don’t eat beans, rice and the like but when out of food, one will eat to survive. Luckily for me I still have my winter clothes, coats, hats, etc. so I won’t freeze going outside. I worry about my dogs as I will have to share my food with them if their food becomes unavailable, although they are Rottweilers and can adapt to the cold. I am a member of FOTCM and contribute monetarily when possible. Perhaps there is something else that I can contribute to FOTCM, research, etc?
It turns out there is a Youtube of a lecture given by the author of the book "A Cold Welcome"
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Can we become antifragile?
Article found onZero Hedge
Here's an excerpt from Nassim Nicholas Taleb” fromhis bookAntifragile:Things That Gain From Disorder
"Then comes the day when it is really not a very good idea to be a turkey.
So with the butcher surprising it, the turkey will have a revision of belief, right when its confidence in the statement thatthe butcher loves turkeysis maximal and it is very quiet and soothingly predictable in the life of the turkey…
The key here is that such a surprise will be a black swan event, but just for the turkey, not for the butcher.
We can also see from the turkey story the mother of all harmful mistakes.
Mistaking absence of evidence of harm for evidence of absence…"
Joe Jarvis again:
I think that there's only so much we can do to survive future events. We might try to become just a bit more antifragile in our minds, that is.
Surely, the best thing is being mentally prepared, to accept that we might lose everything, sooner or later and
to reduce our attachment to physical life.
Upon further reflection physical preparations will be useful, if only to calm our minds.
Can we become antifragile?
Article found onZero Hedge
Here's an excerpt from Nassim Nicholas Taleb” fromhis bookAntifragile:Things That Gain From Disorder
"Then comes the day when it is really not a very good idea to be a turkey.
So with the butcher surprising it, the turkey will have a revision of belief, right when its confidence in the statement thatthe butcher loves turkeysis maximal and it is very quiet and soothingly predictable in the life of the turkey…
The key here is that such a surprise will be a black swan event, but just for the turkey, not for the butcher.
We can also see from the turkey story the mother of all harmful mistakes.
Mistaking absence of evidence of harm for evidence of absence…"
Joe Jarvis again:
I think that there's only so much we can do to survive future events. We might try to become just a bit more antifragile in our minds, that is.
Surely, the best thing is being mentally prepared, to accept that we might lose everything, sooner or later and
to reduce our attachment to physical life.
Upon further reflection physical preparations will be useful, if only to calm our minds.
